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    As well as under reporting visitors behind a NAT'ed single ip address, it will also over-report users not on a fixed ip. I'm on a variable ip address from a large pool of addresses as are a large percentage of customers from my ISP.

    Personally I think you're trying to push water uphill if you're trying to identify "unique" visitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    As well as under reporting visitors behind a NAT'ed single ip address, it will also over-report users not on a fixed ip. I'm on a variable ip address from a large pool of addresses as are a large percentage of customers from my ISP.

    Personally I think you're trying to push water uphill if you're trying to identify "unique" visitors.
    Yes I am aware of this situation but as this has been already pointed out it is all down to personal preference. I do not mind if a dynamic IP user is logged more than once as this may well be the case on my current site.

    Furthermore I prefer fixed IP companies to only be logged once as this is how our company is set up and this site is quite often visited by the staff there for some of the useful info.

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    You could always exclude the counter file (image, php, whatever) in the Robots.txt - meaning it would be ignored by "well-behaved" robots (all of the main search engine crawlers should take note of the robots.txt file).
    That would sort out one of the problems.
    Identifying unique users is trickier, for the reasons people have already stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icabod View Post
    You could always exclude the counter file (image, php, whatever) in the Robots.txt - meaning it would be ignored by "well-behaved" robots (all of the main search engine crawlers should take note of the robots.txt file).
    That would sort out one of the problems.
    Identifying unique users is trickier, for the reasons people have already stated.
    Cheers for that, I have decided to go for one of these free ones that claims it is unique - don't mind if it is not exact. thought this chap had done enough already on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icabod View Post
    You could always exclude the counter file (image, php, whatever) in the Robots.txt - meaning it would be ignored by "well-behaved" robots (all of the main search engine crawlers should take note of the robots.txt file).
    That would sort out one of the problems.
    When I first saw this, I thought 'yeah, cool'... but... if your 'counter file' is a php script included server-side then robots.txt will have no effect. However, if you call your script from within the HTML page (eg. from an IMG SRC attribute for instance - as many do) then I guess robots.txt should prevent the resource from being fetched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penders View Post
    When I first saw this, I thought 'yeah, cool'... but... if your 'counter file' is a php script included server-side then robots.txt will have no effect. However, if you call your script from within the HTML page (eg. from an IMG SRC attribute for instance - as many do) then I guess robots.txt should prevent the resource from being fetched.
    Yep, that's true - the robots.txt thing would rely on using a "classic" style of counter as an image or something referenced from within the main html.
    Damn those server-side thingamibobs!

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    Never mentioned that I got the original problem solved with this helpful chap. It required extra "tags" to be wrapped around the text.

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